well, I think I agree with you, in fact I thought of it sometime... although having your data on line may help when you switch between computers, I still don't think is a nice thing having all your private data on line moreover web applications are really far to find a way to perform as desktop apps just look at the beta interface of yahoo mail which is the most complete web application I've seen to date (well, yahoo photos is really good two) but it takes a lot of time to load an to run
(part of the discussion we have on the topic)
– schizoid, Wed Jan 10 06:51:43 2007
Well, I belive that while the web may not still be a viable option for some types of applications, it already is a very viable replacement for many. I haven't used Yahoo! mail, so I don't know how good it is, but I must say that I've found some of the example web applications I listed very good...
– Alejo, Wed Jan 10 07:11:41 2007
I used geocities, that belongs to yahoo, and it was horrible when they proceeded to quit ftp access, because one couldn't make use of a tool to make a mirror easily :( I felt that my info was stolen, the same happened when they decided to not give for free pop3 access to the members.
I really dislike when the people try to clon things, It doesn't make sense to have a clone of thunderbird in javascript, a lot slower, I prefer things more plain, for me is more impressive the usability of gmail than the beta thing of yahoo...
I prefer the user interface of google over yahoo, simple, cleaner, I think that cli is a better approach than a 3d desktop for everything, 10 fingers are more productive than 2 or 3 :)
– Ikks, Sat Jan 13 04:00:40 2007
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– Ikks, Sat Jan 13 04:04:49 2007
I used geocities, that belongs to yahoo, and it was horrible when they proceeded to quit ftp access, because one couldn't make use of a tool to make a mirror easily :(
I think it happened when geocities was bought by Yahoo! The good part of it was that we could use shorter addresses. http://www.geocities.com/ResearchTriangle/Thinktank/7379/ became http://www.geocities.com/arhuaco/ .
So, we stopped using the insecure ftp (they should have let us use sftp) and then we only had the web interface. Yahoo stopped caring about geocities and the "Advanced editor" hardly worked... it was broken! Sometimes I edit one of those old pages, and the "Advanced Editor" is still broken!.
I started using Internet in 1998 (Azul and Ikks started earlier).
- I lost an email account in the usa.net server, because they decided to charge for the service :)
- I lost an forfree.at email account because the server was shut down :)
- I was a mydeja user (as a usenet gateway), and mydeja was bought by google. They bought me (i mean, my account)! :) And I lost a lot of bookmarks I had collected!!!
- Blogger was bought by google and they also bought my account :) Now they upgraded things and when I make a comment using my old account, my profile is not shown and I have the option "public profile" enabled. That's because they changed something... I don't know.
- We also started using Orkut and then it ended up being Google's! :)
- I created a Youtube account to upload a video, and surprise! Google's.
- I was a del.icio.us user! And del.icio.us was bought with Yahoo!
Part of the value of the sites that are sold for a lot of money is that they have locked-in users. Somehow the money that they expect to make locking-in users is an incentive for development and innovation. Isn't it?
– Arhuaco, Sat Jan 13 09:40:19 2007
I also had a usa.net address, and my first yahoo email was ikks, I'm not sure how did I manage to loose that account, but it happened to me, I really think that friends are friendlier that free(gratis) services, slec has a server, it was made by donating pieces, it's connected through a free connection, and we are trying to make this a nomad machine, I hope this year this pc will be on a new connection, we'll see.
– Ikks, Tue Jan 16 04:22:38 2007
I saw your posting through the colibri list, I also disagree with the long header ;P.
Other two examples that may work to support your arguments:
+ GIS (Geographic Information Systems) online services: I feel that for certain number of developers is easier (and probably more efficient) just to hook up to the services provided by Google Maps rather than creating their own Web Servers using MapServer or other open tools.
+ Reference Management Systems: To manage the bibliographic references, universities offer management systems provided by private companies that store the references in their own servers. In this cases, it is possible import and export information. i.e. Refworks.com
Both cases are also related to the ownership of information: Geographical data and access to journal databases it is restricted by their owners. For private companies, it is easier to control their business (data and/or services) if they host their services on the Web.
– Guillermo , Thu Jan 18 19:54:29 2007
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